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6. The NUCLEAR BOMB - Ted's Homemade Mange Cure / Remedy

I had all my ingredients, but there's still the question of bathing your dog.  What I did was bathe Sarge once a week.  But this was no regular ass bath!  What you need to do is do Ted's Mange Bath (Which I now call Mange Armageddon Bath).  This was something I had come across online and decided to try... it worked as advertised. What is does is gets deep down into the skin and delivers a mild insecticide to any damn creature who plays like they want to hide on the surface of my dog. Now the insectide is VERY VERY mild compared to say, roach spray.. but to a creature as small as a mite, this insectide is the equivalent of nuclear armageddon.   This is how I did it..

(I had to buy an e-collar for dog's neck after this, because my dog tends to want to lick off the substance. You don't want yours doing that. This isnt harmful to your dogs skin, but is probably harmful to the belly.)

What you want to do is buy a bottle of HYDROGEN PEROXIDE.  The bottle avalable at your local drugstore is perfect.  These bottles are usually 16oz and  3% hydrogen peroxide.

Borax: The Dog Mange BOMB
You also want to buy some detergent-like substance called BORAX. I found this at my local supermarket. The brand was "20 Mule Team"  For $5.00, I got a big ass box which was the only size they were selling anyway. You won't need to use too much of this, you can use the rest to clean your house and laundry, supposedly it is some sort of miracle product for these uses.

Now you want to find a large empty bottle because that Hydrogren Peroxide needs to be diluted from 3% to 1%. 

1) Fill the bottle with 32 oz of water. 
2) Pour the whole 16 oz bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide into the bottle of water.
3) Add about 1 CUP of BORAX (you've added enough borax when you see that the borax is no longer being absorbed by the water and just floats and/or settles. In other words, KEEP ADDING BORAX UNTIL IT WILL NOT MIX ANYMORE, somewhere around 1 cup should suffice.)

Throw your dog in the bath. Shampoo and wash as usual. When done with the bath, keep dog in tub and  dry it lightly leaving dog still damp but not soaking wet.  It is now that you want to pour the 48 ounces of solution on your dog. Pour it over neck and back area. Pour a little, then massage it in well. Pour more and do the same. Make sure to cover your dog's whole body. Do this until the entire bottle is done. Don't worry, it is painless to your dog and will not burn or irritate any open sores. Try not to get this into dog's eyes. (I advise you to use your hand to apply solution to the head area and not pour the mixture directly onto your dogs head.)

NEXT STEP; DO NOT DRY YOUR DOG.
Don't touch your dog with any towel or anything like that.  The solution has to naturally dry on your dog. The Peroxide will help it dry quick.

This will dry out the skin of your dog, I've seen some people say they've put some sort of lubricant on their dog after this -- I didn't. The point of this IS to dry the dog's skin, so don't cry for feel sorry for Fido when you do this, he's not in any discomfort and will thank you later wth a big lick on your face, trust me.

Whats happening is:
borax = mild insectide
peroxide = drying agent/penetrant


The 32oz of water diluted the peroxide to safe levels and now the solution will seep DEEPLY into the skin carrying the borax with it.  The mites that are burrowed into the skin will get a rude f&%king awakening and all the active eggs on the surface off the skin will be dried out.

You want to give your dog this bath once a week, you will only need to do this 2-3 times, and you should start to see improvement after the 2nd time.
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Now I have what I need to rebuild Sarge (my dog) INTERNALLY and the Neem oil and Ted's mange bath to wreck mites EXTERNALLY. We should be set.

45 comments:

  1. I have the same experience of losing my 1st Mini Pin at the vet. Now my Second Min pin is diagnosed with Demodex Mange after 3 months being treated for stupid allergies and with all wrong medication.. Finally a 3rd vet diagnosed its Demodex Mange. I did the dip once. Then I was doing research on the internet found its all pesticide. I found your blog. The following week I bathe him and applied neem oil the way you mentioned. Earlier it was just few spots now its spread all over he itches a lot and at times bleed. Sometimes he is ok. But what I see is now its spread all over wherein earlier it was only near eyes, neck and forehead.
    I want to give him The Borax bath. But is it safe as I have read it has caused lot of reactions on few dogs. As mine is Mini Pin a small dog I do not want to take risk as he was already on wrong medicines. I am very confused as I do not want any like of pesticide on him. Kindly guide me what route to take to treat him. Its been 3 weeks now and i see it increased and spread all over.

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    1. Well first I want to say that i'm sorry to hear aobut whats going on with your dog. I know it's troubling to see your dog in such condition, because TRUST ME, I've been through it. I really don't know how to advise you if you said your dog got WORSE you applied neem to it. Since the neem is really harmlesss to the dog and very dangerous to the mites, I find this strange. Did you see ANY improvment at all when you used the neem?

      I would not use Borax in this situation. Instead I'd advise to you follow your vet's directionss and use that medication for a while and see if it works.

      I'm interested in your progress, so please keep me updated with whats going on there.

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    2. Regarding your comment about pesticides, you have to keep in mind that the mites are insects. The prescribed medicins are forumlated to be gentle to deal with these microscopic pests. If you want to be on the safe side, supplement your dog with half a spoon of apple cider vinegar in its water and/or garlic tabs for dogs. This will help to make your dog toxic to mites from the inside and reduce biting and such, but it won't be strong enough to eradicate the problem.

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  2. Yes I had seen a little improvement i. e one of the major spot had a little hair growth. But contradictory to that he has developed all over the body. The third vet who did diagnose it as Demodex Mange had given me Ectodex Amitraz Dip. He had advised me not to bathe him. But all the sites I have studied says to keep him clean. In-fact I bathe him with Oatmeal shampoo wherein I have added neem to it too.. Finally yesterday I dipped him with Amitraz which I know he does not enjoy at all and after that he stretches a lot. He has anxiety and stress problem too. So I now take him wherever I go. I was very keen on borax bath. But when I saw few opposed it I am very apprehensive. I cannot afford to loose him. I also have read these dips will make them weak. I am sooo confused. After I read your blog. I do give him ACV, FISH OIL, one day i gave him garlic capsule and the Echinaea. But that night I felt he had heavy breathing. I way I lost my MURPHY-1, I am very protective about Murphy -2. Even in midnight I wake up to see if he is ok. Murphy -2 is totally spoil t. He does not eat easily. He is very fussy. I have always given him Cooked chicken and rice. He likes only drumsticks. With all this I am kind of struck. what do you think is the best for me to do now???? please guide.

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    1. Hi. The amitraz and anything else the vet prescribes can and does kill dogs...read the nasty side effects, i would never subject my dog to any of these poisons! But then we also avoid all pharm meds unless absolutely necessary! I am the owner of a german sheperd retriever mix who developed the symtoms some 5 years ago, misdiagnosed as food allergies though he very obviously is allergic to flea bites which means one bite is like 30 and no matter what meds you put on them, if theyre in the yard, theyll bite your dog or cat before they jump off and die. Anyway i have tried EVERYTHING ( except the dips/internal poisons) including steroids which make the situation worse because they weaken the dogs immune system and a weak immune system directly corrolates to mite investations. That said, after weeks of research, we are trying the borax rinse, done PROPERLY this should have zero ill effects on your dog. It is not a toxic poison like the dips and its a topical solution that only penetrates the upper epidermal layers, not passing into the blood stream. Hence any worry of your dog getting sick, muzzle or collar them after the rinse! They are miserable as is, my poor dog has suffered at the hands of vets...no more. I started the rinse a few weeks ago but with christmas and company couldnt be regular. Some times he would become inflamed and bumpy in the bald bla k skin areas and itch more for a bit, i believe its because we aggravated the little buggers!!! I find when i bathe him first in his hypoallergenic puppy/kitten shampoo with his exfoliating bath mitt, this seems to help the mix penetrate and he doesnt seem to flare up that way,the good gentle scrubbing is probablyhelping destroy the mites also.
      Your dog is suffering and after everything we've been through with Scooby, as well as the dozens of other animals we have rescued and rehomed after getting them healthy, i feel confident this mixture of DILUTED PEROXIDE (WHICH IS AFTERALL USED FOR CLEANING WOUNDS!!! ) and LAUNDRY SOAP will NOT kill your dog! Dont let him eat it!!!!
      The first time i used it on scooby he happened to have a 3 inch raw spot and within just a cpl of hours it was healed GONE...i cant explain it. It just worked. Another thing i discovered is that if your dog or cat is suffering itchy gunky ears, you must put ear mite drops in them and it instantly kills thosr which gives the pet much relief! In my research for mite remendies i also discovered a mix of listerine mouthwash, water, baby oil, 2oz of EACH mixed in a squirt bottle, helps relieve itching and red spots too so im now doing the borax rinse, and then the spray after he is completely dry. This spray immediately healed his itchy crusty ears when applied by fingertip to the irritated skin of his ear flaps, after the ear mite drops were applied. It wasnt just the baby oil softening them, we had moisturized them before, it was the combo mix of listerene,baby oil and water that made his ears silky and no more crust!
      We are determined by the end of January to heal our poor doggie completely with these alternative therapies because too many people in the same situation have found serious relief!!! Any ill effects are truly linked to misuse, not following directions or by allowing the already weakened dog eat the mixture.... im trying it all again because i wasnt able to be consistent the first few weeks but also, the way it healed the raw spot and the growth of new hair in the first efforts lets me know it works! Good luck to everyone with their efforts! Remember to dilute the peroxide for less drying effect and also, research repkacing the peroxide with vinegar, many ppl have said thiscworks the same and does not ‘bleach' the darker haired dogs, fur, :-)

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  3. Tell me something.. does it become worse before getting back to normal?? That's what I read somewhere.

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  4. I have treated a friends dog that had Mange with 3.5% H2o2 (hydrogen peroxide) solution and it works great. You can purchase it at any drugstore. After a few applications hair starts growing and you can see the change. Spray 3.5% H2o2 and brush your dog gently as many times as possible, this brushing will introduce the solution into the porous. Let the solution dry out by itself, do not use a towel to dry. It will NOT harm your dog, it will HELP your dog feel better. Continue applications until Mange is eradicate, once eradicate do it once a week or once every two weeks. One thing you have to do at the same time you are treating your dog with 3.5% H2o2 is to spray the area where he roams, specially were he sleeps or rest for prolonged periods of time. If you have to spray the house or clean the house with 3.5% H2o2 do it. If he goes outsied the house and has a favorite place do spray there too. This will sterilize the area were possible focus of mange eggs nest are, 3.5% H2o2 will oxidize the mange eggs, it will not damage your furniture, plants or grass either. I did not use Borax because the 3.5% H2o2 is sufficient, 3.5% H2o2 kills, bacteria, virus, parasites and fungi. Hope this information helps.

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    1. Good to know! I myself wondered if the borax was really necessary too :-)

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    2. Thank you for the info. How many times per day it needs to be sprayed? Once?

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    3. Peroxide DOES NOT kill mites, its not aninsecticide. Borax is. I have been treating my dog, shepward mix, and after the first treatment he stopped chewing on himself. I didn't doa whole lot of research on mange and wasn't really sure if he had it but now I am, and this works like a charm . I thank you all for the additional info like putting mineral oil in the eyes before applying near the eyes I was afraid but have applyed without the oil and was fine I got some in my eyes too from him shaking. So for those of you that are not sure, it doesn't matter the make or model of your dog, follow the directions and you will not be sorry, Also for those of you that asked if it can look worse before it gets better the answer is yes, this gets the mites all riled up cause you are eradicating them. Thanks

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  5. I have an 8 Month old put bull is this safe for her

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  6. My dog (a female Pit) and I have been dealing with this for about a year now. It started when she started having allergic reactions to commercial dog food (from the cheap to the organic to the prescribed). Changing her diet to a beef / unseasoned vegetable meat loaf helped tremendously but I just couldn't get her skin to clear up well enough.

    My mom found this cocktail online and we've bathed my dog twice now, followed by a good soaking in Peroxide and Borax. She's scratching less and I see a lot of dead skin come off when I use a grooming blade on her. Plus her skin is already back to the strawberry cream color it was before. She's happier and sleeps through the night again.

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  7. And be very careful when applying anything around a dog's eyes.
    I suggest using your fingers and then a damp washcloth to wipe away the excess.

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    1. use mineral oil in eyes. it coats and you can soap face without worry!

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  8. I'm fro the Philippines and was having a hard time finding borax. The one I found seems to be specifically for brazing flux. Do you think this is the same as borax used for detergent?

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    1. More importantly, would it be safe to use for this purpose?

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    2. No idea what that product is. If anything, look up the The Mule Team Borax on the web. and compare its ingredients to the one you see in the store.

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  9. i have a 13 week old and i have been giving him the borax bath and the next day i rub him down with the grapeseed oil and neem oil. my concern is that he goes crazy scratching and clawing himself up. is this normal. i have been doing the treatment since he was 10 weeks old. im not sure when i should stop. he doesnt seem to go crazy after the borax bath anymore its just when i apply the oil.

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    1. I don't know.. sounds like he just might not like the feeling or smell or the oil?

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    2. Some dogs ARE very sensitive to topical creams, oils etc....try baby oil w aloe or just aloe itself :-) i think when we first bathe the dogs in the borax mix the mites get aggravated and cause the after bath scratching...i find gently exfoliating the areas during the soap bath that you do prior to the borax rinse, minimizes the after rinse scratching! :-)

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  10. Hi, I have rescued a female dog with a real bad case of mange, and she's not liking the hydrogen peroxide/borax applications...
    she also starts licking it and it worries me... your dogs also licked some of it off?
    also the amount of borax to use changes from website to website...
    Ted's recipe is like 3 full tablespoons for 500 mL of 3% H2O2 and 1000mL of water...

    But this website has a lot more... again will this be toxic for the dog?

    And we do this bath once a week? is that enough? should I also do the lime sulfur dip? she licks this one too...

    PLEASE HELP ME!

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  11. the day after the borax bath, how often do i apply the neem oil? everyday till time for the next bath?

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    1. You can apply it today then every 1-2 days afterwards.

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  12. Borax is less toxic than table salt it has a lower lethal dosage borax is perfectly safe to ingest I take a 1/4 teaspoon in 1Ltr water for Bursitis Boron reduces inflammation ... do some reading it is a useful substance ... big pharma doesnt want you to know you can cure yourself and ease arthritis with simple borax

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  13. I hope this is not too silly, but which Neem Oil is used? I am desperate. We tried the vet prescribed mange pills, allergy testing and shots, coming off commercial good, eating only the Kangaroo and Red Lentils or Herring and Sweet Potatoes kibble. We've tried prednisone and antibiotics when the scratching resulted in raw, pus covered, inflamed skin. I have shampooed with Ketochlor and given prescribed Ketoconazole. We have tried diluted apple cider vinegar spray on his coat and adding Brewer's yeast, olive oil and garlic tablets to his food. Antihistamines don't help, but Valerian and melatonin help on ck him out so he gets rest. We are both too miserable and grossed out to cuddle. I am ready to try this!

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    1. Read my long reply i put on the comment where the lady was afraid to lose her dog, i describe my initial efforts with this treatment after tons of research, i believe it will work, i wasnt consistent the first time and we are hitting it hard core this time!!! :-) good luck!

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    2. I used this for 3 months straight on a pitbull I got from my nephew. It got rid of the mites and keep them away I stop using it and took my dog outside and the mites are back will be using the borax and peroxide again. I use a glovers and baby oil mix the following day to coat her.

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  14. Just tried this tonight. Feeling really hopeful about it. We've been dealing with our pup's demodex since I got him. He's been on and off with the mange for the last 9 months or so.

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  15. Hello! Thank you for this post! We just rescued a pup who has a bad case of demodetic mange- she is practically hairless and looks like an elephant with rough, gray skin! Poor thing. Thankfully, no open sores. We are going to try this tonight for her, since I am a firm believer in natural healing. Question, though: I know you don't rinse it off, but I've read other posts that said 24 hours..did you just leave it on til you bathed her next? Or did you rinse her off after a few days. Thanks!

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    1. Leave it on after it dries. Bath the dog regularly first, then rinse with mixture slowly rubbing it in with your hands to affected areas, let her dry... i found a mix that is equal parts listerene, water, baby oil ( google that for mange, it should come up) so im doing borax rinse, let it dry, spray mist the areas w the listerene water baby oil mix, heals raw spots quickly!!! Weird but true :-) good luck!!! We plan to be mange free by end of january!!

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    2. Listerine is alcohol, don't. Put that on your poor dog, I tried that remedy too and its no where near as good as the borax treatment.

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  16. I cannot thank you enough. I had been battling skin allergies for years, my dog just seemed to get worse, if it was not one disease then it would be another, poor thing lived on antibiotics while the other one was completely healthy.

    I tried the borax treatment and my dog is better by week two! I can't believe the results. Dog had itch bumps with sometimes pus, the dog would be FULL of dandruff like scabies, and the dog would NOT stop itching!! His ears were miserable, I tried coconut oil which relieved him a lot but never cured him.

    He had purple paws (maltese!!!) and purple ears from so much goo. That went away with the coconut oil but the dog would NOT stop scratching!!

    borax has made his skin nice and pink all over again, most of his bumps are at skin level now, and his horrible hotspot that he kept scratching with his rear foot is nicely back to skin level and healing once again! THANK YOU SO MUCH

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    1. Ps,. I do keep spraying him everyday, seems to help tons :)

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  17. CEDAR OIL MADE THE PROBLEM WORSE AND IRRITATED THE HECK OUT OF MY POOR DOG! BORAX, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE AND WATER IS THE BEST WAY TO GO! It was interesting that the guy that sold us Dr. Ben's product wouldn't except returns even when the product didn't work...The best remedy in the world is the Borax laundry detergent booster, hydrogen peroxide and water....we would bathe the dog every 5 days with an oatmeal medicated moisturizing shampoo and then apply the Borax mixture over her wet coat making sure that all the little folds, (under her armpits, under her chin, etc.), were soaked with the solution and applied with a washcloth. You can't dry the animal off which means you might want to make the room as warm as possible for her/him. They have to air dry but they are allowed to shake so it does speed up the drying process. The solution kills the mites and the hydrogen peroxide soothes any skin infection, lesions. After the dog was dry we would apply a tea tree gel which is a natural skin moisturizer and skin antiseptic to the areas where she was really bare...she would close her eyes in relief as we rubbed it in. This really provided relief from the itching too, almost immediately. If you do the full bath once a week and then once or twice a week apply the bad mangey areas with a washcloth and the Borax solution, you'll see results within the first few days. Also it is key that you feed your dog the best food, fish oil, avocados, sardines, organic coconut oil (which looks like vegetable shortening) in order to keep their skin in shape as well as boost their immune system which is usually the main reason for the mite attack in the first place. Also keep the house vacuumed well and all the dog bedding washed so they don't get reinfected while they are being treated. BE diligent about this regime for about 6 weeks and it will get better. It really is the cheapest and most effective way to cure mange. Our poor, now 6 month old dog was treated with toxic dips, Ivermectin, which almost killed her, literally, and it came back....with a vengence. We did the Borax thing and all is great and she looks and finally feels better. I would check with your vet after about six weeks of this treatment and you feel the condition is cured. They will do a skin scraping and make sure the mites are under control. If they feel there are still too many of those little buggers it is in your best interest to treat the animal for maybe another week or so until you get a good normal skin scraping and then watch them and keep them on good food!

    Remedy mixture:
    2 1/2 cups of warm water
    3/4 cup of Hydrogen Peroxide
    5 tablespoons of Borax Laundry Detergent Booster

    You can buy the Tea tree oil gel at a natural foods store.

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  18. All this talk about killing parasites brings me to one ?....Will dish soap kill off demodex

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  19. I know of a dog that was scraped for demodex, but none were found. The symptoms show similar to it tho. My suggestion was all natural supplements...Taste of the Wild "Pacific stream formula", Fish oil 1000mg/300mg omega, dietary supplement(four paws brewer's yeast with garlic) promotes healthy skin/coat boost's immune system, and regular bathing...Boosting the immune system is the key...demodex is on all dog's, but if the dog has a downed immune system the mite will take over....Stress and anxiety can be a cause to take over too. Keep the dogs healthy and happy is a key.

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  20. My dog has mange also around her mouth. can i apply this solution by hand to my dogs mouth area. Basically her lower jaw and underneath. However she keeps licking her mouth with her tongue.

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  21. Does this also work for cats?

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  22. Hi,

    I have one question. My 3 dogs are keep getting fleas and I am in a financial hardship which makes it impossible for me to purchase the expensive Frontline stuff. Plus my Pitbull goes bananas if he sees a spray bottle or hears water running ( think he must have been mistreated somehow with water, i got him from a shelter) What would be the best to try against those darn fleas ,mosquitos and ticks? any suggestions /solutions would be gratefully appreciated

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    1. Try massaging a bit of neem oil mixed with grapeseed oil on your dog.

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  23. Ted, I want to thank you so much for posting this blog. We have been battling mange on our dog, Coco, since last April. We recognized it because our older dog had it many years ago but it cleared itself up. We waited for cocos to go away, but it didn't. The vet wanted me to pay thousands for weekly visits and dips. We passed and tried several products for sale at pet smart and then the feed store, Stuff intended for cattle, but nothing worked. The antibiotics and anti fungal meds and medicated shampoos from the vet ran out right when it really exploded all over her body, and face!
    Yesterday I used medicated shampoo to bathe her, then the peroxide and borax solution and we saw an instant improvement!! Today is been oil day. We have been unable to locate straight up mineral oil so will mix with baby oil (mineral oil with fragrance) we have very high hopes as it seems to VE working and my dog is on the mend after only one day! Thank you! Bless you!!

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    1. Hi I'm not Ted, I don't even know the guy, but you're surely welcome! :)

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